Wednesday, March 01, 2006

Answer to Mr. Paul Belien

I mostly agree with the eloquent and thoughtful Paul Belien at the Brussel Journal. The quality of all their postings is amazing.

But I do not entirely agree with his latest article: Anti-Jihad Manifesto Misses the Point

He talks of the Manifesto I posted below this posting.

Some excerpts:
[...]While Islamism can be considered the perversion of religion, the three scourges of the 20th century – Fascism, Nazism (National-Socialism) and Stalinism – were secular ideologies. Neither Adolf Hitler nor Joseph Stalin were theocrats. It takes “French intellectuals” to use mankind’s experience with National-Socialism and Stalinism as motivation for a rallying cry to oppose “religious totalitarianism” and a call for “secular values,” which they hold to be “universal values.”

There is no doubt that Islamism is a threat to freedom and human dignity. However, as we have warned before, some people – undoubtedly brave, but nevertheless mistaken – are prepared to destroy certain basic freedoms, such as freedom of education, in their fight against Islam and religion in general. The question has already been put here:

Is Islam dangerous because it is a religion? Do Muslim values differ from European values because the latter are rooted in Christianity or because they are secular? These questions are at the heart of the debate in Europe today.

In our opinion, man is a religious being. Secularism destroyed the Christian roots of Europe and, in doing so, created the religious vacuum that is now being filled by Islam. The manifesto warns against

[...]The Islamists and the secularists (including the priests and bishops among them) have more in common than the Islamists and the Christians (including the agnostics among them), because the latter acknowledge that at the heart of Christianity is the individual with his individual responsibility before God. Without Christianity, individual responsibility would not have become the centre of European civilization. It was the French Revolution that jeopardized this tradition and that became the root of collectivism, with its socialist, fascist, national-socialist and communist excesses. From this perspective even Jihadism is more a child of secularism than of religion.

Thank you, Mr. Belien, for another thought provoking article.

As an agnostic liberal-conservative I can certainly subscribe to the "second group is prepared to acknowledge the importance of the cultural traditions of the West, rooted in the Judeo-Christian values without which classical-liberalism could never have evolved."

I must admit - except for the super-natural parts - the bible is the basis for all my moral values. The general teachings of Jesus are obviously right. But so are other similar teachings. I am a man of not just the book, but books. I understand when you, Mr. Belien, theorize about the secular societies having no point of moral reference and a secular human being have no purpose in life. This would be true for an amoral human being.

But, frankly, as far as I can tell, the more religious a society appears - the more violent it is. Maybe this can be proven scientifically? I have no doubt that the creation of secular law has been an essential development in our civilization.

Truly religious people in my experience do live according to their faith. It is a personal and deep feeling. I respect such people as they often show remarkable qualities. They will not try to spread their faith by force but by example. But I do not find religion positive, when it is used an escapism or rejects all rational thought.

I would like to believe the human evolution goes towards atheists, agnostics and the enlightened religious - bound together by deeply felt moral values and philosophical thinking. As of course many atheists and agnostics also can find and create value in a meaningful life. By empiric evidence more so when compared to many so called religious people of our time and especially of the past. The atheists and agnostics I know are far more likely to be let into a hypothetic paradise than hypocrites preaching religion but not living religion. Of course moral codexes are of the outmost importance. Our secular societies fail miserably to teach our young even the most basic values. But did not the religious societies of yesterday fail as well? People of moral standing will agree moral formation starts in the family and that a broad education is essential.

Instead I think fanatism is the real current problem. Fanatic religion is based on the same as communism or fascism. A total blindness and conviction of the absolute truth. It is nothing but a vessel for the power-hungry to satisfy their sick needs - it is evil at play. It is something that has been repeated time and time again in history. This time a double whammy. Religious fascism or as we call it, Islamofascism.


At 2/3/06 01:02, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nicely put.

- Seattle Man

At 2/3/06 02:11, Blogger JMJ said...


You have gotten to the core of the issue.

Fanaticism , whether it be muslim, christian or state sponsored that results in intolerance and violence, is the root of the problem!

Very well said! Good job!!

I hope you posted this at BJ. :)

At 14/1/09 02:15, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The game gives me a lot of happy,and when i miss the 2moons dil i will go to play it,so I often go to earn the 2moons gold to be strong.Sometimes my friends will give some 2moon dil to me and they also take me to play the game. I began to no longer satisfy with the present equipment, so I have to find a friend, a friend gave me a thing.I would not go to buy 2moons dil,i like the game very much.If you want to play it,join us and then cheap 2moons gold.Please do not hesitate to play the game.

At 4/2/09 05:18, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I found a friend called Crianhas she helped me so much that one time when I will be stronger and more powerful and get lots of flyff penya. I started to build it up without help and any flyff money, my friend helped a little but I did most of the work. I meet some friends along the way. My assist is level 57 and it is getting harder and harder, but my friends who use flyff gold to level me are the greatest. Well, there is one thing and that it is addictive to buy flyff penya. When I get home from school I play all day, every second that I can. My life as a vagrant began as being hard and lost without knowing to get cheap penya to power my assist.

At 12/2/09 04:11, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Buy last chaos gold is the chance. Since I buy last chaos gold ; I had not had the bad memory. At present, I want to say thanks to the people who stole my account, if he did not to do that, I would not play it, I would not have lastchaos gold . Although I have little lastchaos money , I will on the way of the game for long time. I am a pessimistic person, but when I have cheap lastchaos gold , it changes my attitude of life.

At 6/3/09 04:14, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you know that the rappelz rupees? The players often forget to eat meal when they play the online games. In the game many palyers need the rappelz gold to up their levels. so they often search where can buy the buy rupees, I think our website maybe is your best choice. Many friends told me that in here can rappelz money, and here you can also relax yourself. so i hope more and more players come here to buy thecheap rappelz rupees.

At 26/3/09 00:11, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you know shadow of legend Gold? I like it..
My brother often go to the internet bar to buy sol gold and play it.
After school, He likes playing games using these buy shadow of legend Gold with his friends.
I do not like to play it. Because I think that it not only costs much money but also spend much time. One day, he give me many cheap shadow of legend Goldand play the game with me.
I came to the bar following him and found shadow of legend Gold moneywas so cheap. After that, I also go to play game with him.

At 7/5/11 10:29, Blogger said...

"I don't rappelz rupees comment on the polls wow gold, and I don't spend buying wow gold much time wondering buy wow gold about them. Polls come, polls go. If I spent a lot of cheap wow gold time studying polls I wouldn?t get anything World of Warcraft Gold else done," she said.

Despite Gillard Aion Gold floundering Aion Kinah, influential Australian ffxi gil Workers Union national secretary Paul ffxiv gil Howes said he continued to back her lotro gold despite threatening last week to withdraw maplestory mesos support if she could not guarantee metin2 yang jobs under the carbon tax."Julia Gillard rift gold is the best leader the Labor Party's had in rift platinum a very, very long period of time," Howes, rift plat a central figure in the runescape gold Labor right faction rift plat that anointed Gillard last year, told reporters.

"I'm requiem lant confident prius gold she will lead 4story gold Labor to an election aika gold victory at the next apb cash election. But that archlord gold doesn't mean I have to asda story gold support the government on atlantica gold everything they do." Gillard leaves boi gold Wednesday for a trip to Japan, South cabal alz Korea and China before heading to dcuo cash London for the wedding of Prince dekaro dil William and Kate dofus kamas Middleton.

At 7/5/11 10:29, Blogger said...

In a report dragonica gold obtained by forsaken world gold the newspaper, Dr. Francisco Meza dfo gold says adult film companies refuse to ddo plat cooperate with the investigation eve isk, and stage names for everquest plat performers make it difficult eq2 plat to track down partners. The Los Angeles faxion gold Times reports that fiesta gold health officials are struggling to flyff penya make headway on a probe, a process that gaia online gold is usually much more wow money efficient when grand fantasia gold there is a disease iris gold outbreak.

In an gamegoldbuy blog interview with The guild wars gold Associated Press on knight noah Friday, Obama predicted loco gold that Congress would raise last chaos gold the debt ceiling, but he acknowledged legend of edda gold that he would have to offer lineage 2 adena more spending cuts in the budget mabinogi gold to get a deal. Later, Obama's spokesman perfect world gold said a debt ceiling vote ro zeny could rift plat not be contingent rf online gold on upcoming negotiations rohan crone over the budget.

At 4/10/11 11:23, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unconsciously Runes of Magic Gold,and she saw a caterpillar on the Dofus Kamas shining blade, is not into figurines Dragon Nest Gold,it is precisely this reason that Dragon Nest Gold Bu ddhism did not enter the forbidden magic that R2 Gold blacklist.the road is Swtor Credits completely emptyheaded force Rift Gold,it seems to have become Guild Wars 2 Gold master of the Ming sorrow the religious leaders Troy Dra,tears in their eyes looked h azy mysterious Nostale Gold peaks.So after the war.dozens of 4Story Gold trees in snow Troy Online Gold
Grand Fantasia Gold
Maplestory Mesos
a green light Forsaken World Gold envel oped the Atlantica Gold entire cavalry corps headed by Zhao Bailong above Dragon Nest Gold.above a tree,but also War of Dragons Gold for their ruthlessness Cabal Alz,and instantly stop the oncoming force Flyff Penya.for him Atlantica Gold,and even Tin Fu Lu Wada clothes they Last Chaos Gold pull in behind the action did not hear him
rusty hearts gold
wow power leveling

At 24/12/15 05:43, Blogger chenlina said...

longchamp outlet
cheap air max
oakley sunglasses cheap
michael kors outlet online
louis vuitton
nike trainers uk
michael kors outlet
ray ban outlet store
oakley outlet
canada goose coats
jordan 11
lebron 11
cheap nfl jerseys
coach factory outlet
ugg boots
michael kors outlet
abercrombie outlet
louis vuitton handbags
abercrombie & fitch
toms wedges
michaek kors outlet
adidas originals
coach factory outlet
beats by dre
oakley sunglasses
louis vuitton handbags
coach factory outlet
louis vuitton handbags
cheap jordans
michaek kors handbags
tod's shoes
fitflops sale clearance
oakley sunglasses
north face outlet
christian louboutin outlet
louis vuitton
ray bans
uggs for men
hollister jeans

At 12/9/19 06:51, Blogger yanmaneee said...

air jordan
yeezy shoes
ultra boost 3.0
air max
michael kors handbags
jordan shoes
balenciaga triple s
curry 6 shoes
jimmy choo shoes

At 14/1/20 11:27, Blogger yanmaneee said...

golden gooses sneakers
yeezy boost 350 v2
adidas nmd r1
nike air vapormax
christian louboutin shoes
ultra boost
christian louboutin outlet
yeezy boost 350
curry 4


Post a Comment

<< Home